Jennifer Hancock

Reading books with images

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Hi. We are new to Bookshare and using it on Samsung Tablets (and hopefully a few laptops as well). We have downloaded books with images for several of our students but the images do not show up when reading the book. We are using the app GO READ to access the books. Any help would be appreciated.

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Hey Jennifer,

This is very odd, with Go Read there isn't any options for disabling the display of images, they're supposed to always show if they're present in the book no matter what.  One option is that the book may not actually contain images.  Unfortunately the books we manually scan into our library or the books our volunteers provide us can't retain the images.  In Go Read books with images will have two download buttons, one for downloading with images and one for just downloading the text.  

There is another option, occasionally publishers will give us a book with just the title page and the copyright logo for images, which while the actual book images aren't present the download with images option will be available.  

Either way if you can provide the titles you downloaded for your students I can verify if the images are present and what images they include, and we can troubleshoot the issue from there.

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Hi Nick. Thanks so much. My colleague said these are the books she downloaded so far but cannot remember which had images in them.  I definitely know the few I tried with her yesterday we clicked on DOWNLOAD WITH IMAGES but didn't see the images come through in the app when we tried reading it.

 

If you lived at the time of the covil war

If you sailed on the mayflower

If you traveled in a covered wagon

Barfing in the backseat-How I survived my family road trip

Halfback attack

Long Arm Quarterback

Pink and Say

Ramona Quimby Age 8

Thank you Mr. Falker

The candy corn contest

The Invention of Hugo Cabret

Who was Roberto Clemente

Who were the Beatles

Wonderstruck

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Hey Jennifer,

This list is perfect, let me go through these:

If you lived at the time of the civil war - Bookshare doesn't have images

If you sailed on the mayflower - Bookshare doesn't have images

If you traveled in a covered wagon - Bookshare doesn't have images

Barfing in the backseat-How I survived my family road trip - Does have images, but there aren't many, they just appear as chapter headings, this has another strange error where the Bookshare chapter numbers are wrong (Chapter 388 is actually chapter 14 based on the image)

Halfback attack  - Does have images but there aren't many again, try going to page 9 or 10, there's a 1 page image there. The next image doesn't appear until page 30. 

Long Arm Quarterback - Does have images but again there aren't many, they just appear to be icons for athletic gear on page 119.

Pink and Say - Bookshare doesn't have images

Ramona Quimby Age 8 - Bingo, this might be the best book to troubleshoot with.  This one has lots of images distributed throughout the book including the title and cover art.  

I am noticing on the download history for your organization however this book was listed as being downloaded as text and not the option with images.  Could you try opening this book in Go Read, opening the top left menu, and choosing the option to delete this book.  Then re-requesting this book in the images format?  This way we can verify that Go Read is downloading the correct version of the book.

I'll skip the rest of these as the Ramona book looks to be the best option to at least verify images should be appearing.

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Hi there, 

I was wondering the same thing.  I am very new to all of this...signed up our first student member today!  I have assigned her books and tried to read one to see how it works and there are no pictures.  The book was Knuffle Bunny: The case of mistaken identity.  I could not figure out how to get the pictures, which are enormously important to the story.  As they are with all picture books.  Will I find that picture books will not have the pictures often???  If so, this program may not be what I am looking for. Thank you for your help!

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Hi Sharon,

Images in our books aren't always present, this is true.  But at this point the vast majority of our books we've added over the past few years do include images.  We receive books largely through two methods, the vast majority now are provided to us by the publisher directly, but we do add several manually either through our incredible volunteers or our own in house book processing.  Unfortunately only the books provided to us by the publishers will include images, the books our volunteers add or the books we do ourselves at this point we cannot retain images.

When searching for a book look for the format "Daisy with Images," if this is available then we have images for the book.  For instance another great children's picture book is A Camping Spree with Mr. Magee 

If you're interested we also have a great special collection of the top 100 picture books that we have done manually to ensure the best accessibility: https://www.bookshare.org/browse/collection/50/Top

 

 

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I am trying to get my students more active with Bookshare and I too am having issues finding books with images.  These will be daisy with text correct?   My student is a visual reader and will not want books without images, especially when using elementary textbooks.  I have tried to download his reading books "with images" Reading Street and there are no images???? Do any EPUB books have images  Any help would be appreciated.  RIght now I have access to iBooks, Dolphin and Voice Dream Reader Lite and trying to determine if VD will be the best option.  Thanks!

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Hi Michelle,

If a book has images it will have the format "DAISY with Images" available, if it only has DAISY Text Only then unfortunately we do not have images for the book.  Additionally while rare these days we do have some books given to us previously where the only images we received were the publisher logo.  

If the book has images they'll always display in EPUB on readers that are compatible with images.  Unfortunately currently Dolphin doesn't support images, and Voice Dream Reader only supports images on newer devices when you enable the rich text option.  Opening the EPUB into iBooks is a great way to verify that the images are present as they'll always display on that application.  Additionally if you're ever curious what images we actually have, you can download the Daisy with Images format, in the zip file will be an images folder that you can use to view the images themselves.  

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I am an alternate media specialist in Cupertino, and I want to add some information about images in bookshare books. First, if you need to determine if a book has images, even if you have no sight, see if it is available as Daisy with images, like Nick said. Download it if it is, and there will be a folder labeled "images" under the daisy folder with the book. You need to do this on a Windows PC or Mac, this won't work within an app. Anyway, if there is, you can open the images folder and look at the raw images. If you can't see, you can print a few sample ones for another person to look at for you. So it's pretty easy to tell if the book has lots, or just a couple of pictures. 

If you need to practice with a book chock full of images, try the publisher quality "for dummies" series .. for example both knitting for dummies and chrochetting for dummies have over 900 images. Now, I know that crafting books are not textbooks, but it works well for practicing with a book that is known to have many images. With textbooks, many publishers don't give bookshare the images, but with crafting books, I've found they often do.

You can also look at the raw images in an epub book even if you are blind. Epub is just a zip file. What I do is copy the epub to a work directory. Then I rename it with a .zip extension. Then I unzip it and look for an images directory. In there are all the raw images, which can be magnified, printed or dealt with any way you need to.

I hope this helps.

 

--Debee

 

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